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FOCUS POINT: NCLB Public School Choice Requirements

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COMMENT: choice requires a supply side

Submitted by Paul Hill on 10/12/04 12:12 PM

The problem of providing options for children in failing schools is intractable if it's assumed the supply of schools is fixed. David is right that successful public schools have no incentive to admit students who come from troubled schools. Those students will pull down the averages, and they will present problems that the "successful" schools are not used to solving. A school that seldom admits a child more than one year below grade level has very little expertise about how to help a child who comes in three years below.

If interventions in troubled schools are not successful, the only real option is creation of new schools. That explains Chicago's Renaissance initiative. But new school creation is challenging. Districts have to offer a level playing field, so that new schools have a chance to succeed. They also have to screen possible school operators carefully, preferring those that have a track record in education and some financial and administrative competence. A level playing field implies equal funding, on a per-pupil basis. Money needs to follow children, not get diverted to support a central office that helps existing schools and ignores or harrasses new ones.

Ultimately, a district needs to be in the business of making sure kids get good schools, abandoning failures and fostering new ones, not running a fixed set of schools and accepting those schools' capacities as a binding constraint.

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NCLB Public School Choice Requirements

Submitted by Todd Ziebarth on 10/12/04 05:37 AM

Problems with NCLB Choice

Submitted by David Plank on 10/12/04 06:07 AM
- choice requires a supply side
  
  Submitted by Paul Hill on 10/12/04 12:12 PM
  - Increasing the Supply
    
    Submitted by Dianne Piche on 10/12/04 12:36 PM
    - Incentives can help
      
      Submitted by David Plank on 10/12/04 01:07 PM
      - incentives to serve the disadvantaged
        
        Submitted by Paul Hill on 10/12/04 02:45 PM
  - More on Incentives and Interdistrict Choice
    
    Submitted by Dianne Piche on 10/12/04 02:06 PM
Barriers to NCLB Choice

Submitted by Susan Uchitelle on 10/12/04 06:10 AM
- Communicating to Parents About Choices
  
  Submitted by Jane Cunningham on 10/12/04 09:26 AM
  - Wanna Do Choice Right? Look at St. Louis
    
    Submitted by Dianne Piche on 10/12/04 12:23 PM
NCLB Choice Working?

Submitted by Dianne Piche on 10/12/04 06:30 AM
- NH School Choice Program
  
  Submitted by Debra Hamel-Kearney on 10/12/04 08:21 AM
  - NH rural choices
    
    Submitted by Paul Hill on 10/12/04 08:33 AM
    - Rural Mascoma Valley (NH) SAD
      
      Submitted by Frank Heller, MPA on 10/12/04 09:00 AM
      - Challenges of NCLB Choice
        
        Submitted by Susan Uchitelle on 10/12/04 09:20 AM
        
        Cyber home schools as an answer for poor children?
        
        Submitted by Frank Heller, MPA on 10/12/04 09:35 AM
        
        Cyber Learning in an Urban Environment
        
        Submitted by Dianne Piche on 10/12/04 02:32 PM
        
        Some revealing virtual school stats
        
        Submitted by Mickey Revenaugh on 10/12/04 06:02 PM
        
        Home Schoolers were early adapters of D.L. technologies
        
        Submitted by Frank Heller, MPA on 10/13/04 05:58 AM
Statewide School District to Create Choices

Submitted by Paul Hill on 10/12/04 06:44 AM
- Challenges to Providing More NCLB Choices
  
  Submitted by Susan Uchitelle on 10/12/04 09:22 AM
Unnecessary obstacles to exercising transfer choices

Submitted by Bob Nardo on 10/12/04 07:08 AM
- Change and Support for Urban Districts
  
  Submitted by Susan Uchitelle on 10/12/04 09:25 AM
- Obstacles to choice in charters
  
  Submitted by Richard Ten Eyck on 10/12/04 09:26 AM
  - Core funding and NCLB parents with vouchers for the rest?
    
    Submitted by Frank Heller, MPA on 10/12/04 10:15 AM
- A Few Words on "Recalcitrant School Districts"
  
  Submitted by Dianne Piche on 10/12/04 12:12 PM
  - Making This a Reality
    
    Submitted by Susan Uchitelle on 10/12/04 12:31 PM
    - What real enforcement means
      
      Submitted by Dianne Piche on 10/12/04 12:45 PM
      - enforce through coercion and punishment??
        
        Submitted by mark spyder thompson, ph.d. on 10/12/04 02:32 PM
        
        accountability is about fulfilling obligations to children
        
        Submitted by Paul Hill on 10/12/04 03:04 PM
        
        I respectfully disagree
        
        Submitted by Dianne Piche on 10/12/04 03:08 PM
        
        I offer a respectable apology
        
        Submitted by mark spyder thompson, ph.d. on 10/12/04 03:31 PM
        
        the look of schools?
        
        Submitted by mark spyder thompson, ph.d. on 10/12/04 03:45 PM
Maine's Democratic regime has rejected cooperation w/NCLB

Submitted by Frank Heller, MPA on 10/12/04 07:48 AM
- the politics of education...
  
  Submitted by mark spyder thompson, ph.d. on 10/12/04 02:22 PM
Reconciling research w/ policy aims...

Submitted by Luis Huerta on 10/12/04 01:28 PM
- Charters as a "Traditional" Choice
  
  Submitted by Dianne Piche on 10/12/04 02:26 PM
  - "Traditional" is not necessarily a flattering concept
    
    Submitted by mark spyder thompson, ph.d. on 10/12/04 02:47 PM
- the law requires options; charters are one means
  
  Submitted by Paul Hill on 10/12/04 03:16 PM
  - Nontraditinal and Alternative Schools
    
    Submitted by Susan Uchitelle on 10/12/04 03:29 PM
    - status of non-charter alternative schools
      
      Submitted by Paul Hill on 10/12/04 03:58 PM
      - keeping the money with the kid
        
        Submitted by mark spyder thompson, ph.d. on 10/12/04 04:08 PM
- Recent national study finds that charters improve student performance.
  
  Submitted by Michelle Godard Terrell on 10/12/04 03:53 PM
Can virtual schools help meet the capacity challenges of the NCLB choice requirements?

Submitted by Michelle Godard Terrell on 10/12/04 02:43 PM
- Virtual Schools CAN help meet some of the needs of students
  
  Submitted by Debra Hamel-Kearney on 10/12/04 03:41 PM
  - Mascoma Valley H.S. was N.H's first virtual high school
    
    Submitted by Frank Heller, MPA on 10/13/04 07:32 AM
- Making the NCLB/virtual school connection
  
  Submitted by Mickey Revenaugh on 10/12/04 06:13 PM
A Broader View

Submitted by Rebecca Wilhelm on 10/12/04 08:12 PM